Easier to make money.

[Lann 10,838]

The money that can be made robbing Cayo Perico made me think about reasons Rockstar could have. 
That it would not be a calculated move, that they simply did not expect us to make millions a day, is imo not likely at all. T2 is a huge company with a plan to make money.

Players who play almost every day make enough money not to buy shark cards, much like alot of the active players on this site.

The players who come back to the game when a DLC drops could be potential shark card buyers, to afford the new stuff. As they got bored grinding the previous DLC before even breaking even. So interesting DLC = sell more shark cards.

So nothing of this would explain why money suddenly comes easy, and also while doing something rather fun.

The only reason I can come up with is that they are preparing to get as many players as possible to buy (move over to) the ps5 stand alone version of GTA Online. Then it makes sence. First being able to make alot of money from things like the Cayo Perico heist, then start to drop teasers on all the expensive and fun things available once the stand alone version is released. A clever way to make sure everyone buy the game one more time (and transfer their rich character).

Whats your thoughts on this?

[RammsteinDUDE 648]

When the Casino heist came out a year ago it was at that point arguably the best way to make money, I played the Casino heist so much my bank account skyrocketed up as so did many other people. 

With the Cayo Perico heist it's even easier now to make money fast so I think we will see a lot more multi-millionairs the next coming months. The thing that is that both updates are rather cheap compared to previous updates. In order to start things running you only have to spend around 10 million, and with the additional stuff you can spend up to around 30 million. As in previous updates the total of spendable money went way over 50+ million, with Smugglers Run even over 100+ million. Although is these times it was way harder to make good money. 

Just in the first ten days I made around 50 million with the new heist, two years ago I was happy if I had 10 miilion of my bank account. 

So I'm curious what Rockstar is planning. Maybe we get another ''Biggest update so far'' with the release of GTA on next-gen, where we can actually spend all our money we easily make now.  

One other thing, It's always good if there is a new best way to make money. But this new heist is I think to OP which makes the other money making methods like Businesses, older heist etc. 

[Sinister 2,578]

Considering they made nearly a Billion dollars off this game in 2020, on top of the billions it has made the 6 years prior I think they will be ok with players making money.  The game is still in the top 5 seller lists and will most likely continue that trend. 
 

For every grinder there are half a dozen free roam tryhards that don’t care about money as long as they can kill everyone with a Lazer or OpMk2. Then we have players like me that just want to goof around in free roam and stunt race. Click a mouse button a few times and have enough money for the year in a few minutes.

Long story short I feel that while everyone at GTAF thinks R* is clueless and cannot do anything right, they are in fact the opposite. They know exactly what they are doing and this is all part of their plan.  I honestly wouldn’t be shocked to see a complete reset of the game at some point making all this grind money useless.

Edited January 10, 2021 by Sinister

[Smurf 947]

Before the Cayo Perico Heist, the Bogdan Heist was the sleeper money maker but it involved the host & one player. The Host would give a 85% (maxed alllowed shared %) and leaving the game at the right moment to keep the Heist Finale Mission, as the 2 player Hosted vice versa for $1.8M each in 1hr20 doing 4 Finale's a day. Along with a lot of activities to earn, after I stopped doing it I was lingering in the $540M no matter what I did & selling cars would be an additional $230M. Having everything I wanted already & accidentally buying cars twice. Restarted with 2 new charcter & was at $167M before my PS4 went 😇 . 

Cayo Perico seem to be the most put together way to earn in the game & the cherry on top is you dont need any extra's if you dont want to. As I have repurchased GTA V PE & RDR2 on the Xbox One S I will be putting it through its paces using the designated XDBX Post. Shark Card buyer's will always show up for each DLC ready to pay, I dont see R* doing a character transfer, the only thing promised was if you owned GTA V on previous Gen for example a PS4, within a certain timed period after the Stand Alone release date, you would get a free upgrade to the standalone.

[zmurko 7,622]

What's more concerning is that it's made everything else pretty much obsolete, unless you actually enjoy the grind of running countless selling missions for spare change. I stopped MC businesses even before the DLC dropped (once I was happy with my bank balance) and now I only do the Nightclub sales (since it's practically free money). My bunker's been full for 2 weeks and I don't really care, I have no intention of grinding Casino prep missions again anytime soon. I'm only interested in completing Act II of Doomsday heist, since I haven't done it yet. I have tried almost everything there is and most of it is very grindy and repetitive with very little reward compared to Cayo Perico heist, so why should I put myself through that boring process again.

Just look at a bunker sales, you can spend 15mins doing same old sales missions for $135.000 profit. And thats one of the better businesses.

Though to be honest, I'm slowly getting bored of Cayo Perico prep missions too, but at least they're over quick and there's a finale at the end, where you can immerse yourself and have some fun for a $1.5M reward.

I think I have around $40M to spend on the cars I still want, which shouldn't take long, then I'll probably revive my 2nd character again and set some goals for it (I sold everything she had 3 years ago), otherwise what's the point in playing outside SRL, where we can think of ways to actually use all the cars we've accumulated.

[Lann 10,838]

8 hours ago, RammsteinDUDE said:

 

So I'm curious what Rockstar is planning. Maybe we get another ''Biggest update so far'' with the release of GTA on next-gen, where we can actually spend all our money we easily make now.  

 

I forgot we are getting the stand alone ps5 online for free, so giving us that play the game regular rich characters would not encourage more sold games.

7 hours ago, Sinister said:

 

Long story short I feel that while everyone at GTAF thinks R* is clueless and cannot do anything right, they are in fact the opposite. They know exactly what they are doing and this is all part of their plan.  I honestly wouldn’t be shocked to see a complete reset of the game at some point making all this grind money useless.

I agree, but would be very suprised to see a reset.

2 hours ago, Smurf said:

I dont see R* doing a character transfer, the only thing promised was if you owned GTA V on previous Gen for example a PS4, within a certain timed period after the Stand Alone release date, you would get a free upgrade to the standalone.

Interesting thought on not being able to transfer, along with Sinisters note about reset above. What if the stand alone ps5 Online forces a brand new start. Highly unlikely imo, but maybe if the extended part is the main focus for a fresh start. That sounds interesting.

1 hour ago, zmurko said:

What's more concerning is that it's made everything else pretty much obsolete,

Indeed, so what are they planning.. Or is it simply so that a new money making dlc needs to be better than the previous to get interest/shark card sales. I dont think thats the case here, as players would buy the submarine even if the payout was lower because of the island. But still, with the lack of stuff to buy in this dlc, what are we making money for?

[zmurko 7,622]

There will be character transfers. It's supposedly already coded in. Almost nobody is interested in starting over a 7 year old game and go through the tedious grind again.

At this point they will have to start putting in new map(s), them being big new city expansions or little places for heist like activities like Cayo Perico. With Cayo Perico being a test ground of some sorts, I'm sure they can come up with a bigger pay wall for the next one. $2.2M is ridiculously low. That's less than most of the super cars.

There could also be a reoccuring fee for visiting a new location (plane ticket), but there needs to be more to do there than just dance to justify the price.

Prices will go up as well I think, now that you only need $2.2M to start making serious money (plus $1M for the office for new players).

[Lann 10,838]

A second big map, use your money to ”start over” in a new city. The ability to move between the maps, but not being able to use your LS stuff in the new city. I would pay many millions for that.

[Fido_le_muet 5,197]

No way they're blocking character transfer on the PS5 stand alone. We will make the jump like we did from PS3 to PS4. 

When GTA 6 (and GTA 6 Online) does come out on the other hand, I can see them making us start over. Perhaps with a bonus for returning players but I'm confident we'll have to start from scratch. 

Now it's true that making money is easier then ever thanks to Cayo Perico but I don't think there is an agenda by Rockstar to explain that. Maybe we're at the end or near the end of the development of GTAO and they're letting us make a lot of money to buy the things we want in game before moving on. 

I don't see an update coming where everything would be super expensive because we have easy money now. 

Edited January 10, 2021 by Fido_le_muet

[Lann 10,838]

4 minutes ago, Fido_le_muet said:

 

When GTA 6 (and GTA 6 Online) does come out on the other hand, I can see them making us start over. Perhaps with a bonus for returning players but I'm confident we'll have to start from scratch. 

Do we even need a GTA 6 Story mode and a GTA (6) Online. How about the ”storyline” is included in the ”Online”. You play the story with your caracter, solo or with friends. Future GTA could simply be huge DLC types updates. Revenues from shark cards rather than copies of GTA 7, 8... or even paying for those DLC’s/expansions. In 15 years we have four huge worlds/islands/cities and maybe a few characters. 🤓😄

[Sinister 2,578]

Online is becoming its own thing so they won’t  HAVE to combine it with a part 6.

Part of me is still hopeful that a separate GTAO will be a completely new start. That new start will be placed on its own servers and real anti cheats will exist that block menus and other nonsense. That new start will also include some new maps, even if it’s just updated old game maps. 
 

When they do that they will not want me coming over with everything I can possibly own and a few billion dollars to make sure I stay far ahead of anyone else playing the game. 
 

We will start fresh at some point because R* doesn’t care how much the small fraction of the player base on Facebook and forums will p*ss and moan about it.

There are people playing this game now that legitimately grind hundreds of millions a dollars, FOR FUN. Still others are broke but spend their time ruining other players fun. None of them will really care about a money wipe. Especially if they let them keep some guns and their precious Op Mk2.

Don’t ever forget that all R* cares about is cold hard cash. They want shark card sales and nothing but shark card sales. Wipe folks out and so many will buy cards it will be shocking. If nothing else, any SC money bought in the last 7 years will transfer with you.

They now what they are doing.

[Smurf 947]

Ok here is my point on the matter, when they revealed that PS4 owners of the game would get the stand alone game free within a 3 months time window, its exclusive to only 'PS5 Consoles.' Sorry Xbox owners it looks like your going to have to straight up purchase the game.

The Cayo Perico Heist seem to have a lot of drip feed content to buy, idk if that factored into the heist payout, or if it was a miscalculation on their part about the difficulty of completion of the Heist Finale. Plus the monthly $1M might be leading into a next ps4 dlc.

R* is giving away a free game on one platform at that point, with content that makes it easier than ever to earn money, & be back on top by grinding even the new portions of the game.

Modders were the main cause of the removal of character transfer & they still exist on the PS4.

Edited January 10, 2021 by Smurf

[Fido_le_muet 5,197]

I like my story mode so I want a real GTA 6. Would be extremely disappointed if it was online only. And if they choose to do only an online based story mode with our character, why not but it needs to be a good one. On par with classic story mode and I hope it doesn't force you to do coop missions with friends. The player needs to have the choice to play solo and/or with crewmates. 

And about R*, I think it's a bit unfair to say they only care about sharkcards. Sure it's a company won their goal is to make money but they also create awesome game worlds and stories and features that are definitely worth our money. We wouldn't be here if they only were after our wallets 😉

[Lann 10,838]

3 hours ago, Smurf said:

 

The Cayo Perico Heist seem to have a lot of drip feed content to buy, idk if that factored into the heist payout, or if it was a miscalculation on their part about the difficulty of completion of the Heist Finale. Plus the monthly $1M might be leading into a next ps4 dlc.

 

If there would have been alot of things to spend money on in the update/drip feed i would understand the high payout better. But imo its the opposite, with almost nothing at all to buy. A handful of cars and not even a new garage. 

[Smurf 947]

😲 Have all the drip feed items been fully released?

Edited January 11, 2021 by Smurf

[Lann 10,838]

6 hours ago, Smurf said:

😲 Have all the drip feed items been fully released?

The Brioso was free for a while, but then removed. The Slamtruck is afaik the one yet not released of these (maybe the motorcycle and military truck, dont know about those).

 

[Lann 10,838]

 

[Smurf 947]

Watched a video yesterday that said the Cayo Perico DLC on release would cost around only $28M, thought it would at minimum be double that. I was out of the loop not playing the game until yesterday.

Are you say there are only 3 drip feed vehicles left?

[Lann 10,838]

11 minutes ago, Smurf said:

Watched a video yesterday that said the Cayo Perico DLC on release would cost around only $28M, thought it would at minimum be double that. I was out of the loop not playing the game until yesterday.

Are you say there are only 3 drip feed vehicles left?

I am not sure about the military vehicles, maybe all 4 remains. Not my focus tbh. But other than that i think its the only the Slamvan (the Brioso 300 was free, but is now gone)