JustHatched 12,123 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Both appear to have the same stats when upgraded and both appear to have the same ride height (still need to Zancudo swamp test) So if both are identical as far as everything that matters (except price) which do you prefer and why? Quote The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's to late to stop reading it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeraldPhoenix 134 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 (edited) I love the Guardian also, it's a tie with the Sandking in my top 5. I like it cause it reminds me of the F650 and the GMC Topkick. Edited March 15, 2015 by GeraldPhoenix Quote Just a car enthusiast; Because racecar "Stay true to yourself. Few will accept you. Everyone else can kick rocks!" 'A GIFT and a CURSE' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmurko 7,622 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 You probably mean the Guardian? Quote S U N D A Y R A C I N G L E A G U E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeymorScagneti 1,274 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 The Guardian is faster than the Insurgent stock and fully modded. Love both though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeymorScagneti 1,274 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Just tested the insurgent and the guardian in my Lago Lunacy/Zancudo Lake race...both work, the guardian climbs better but the insurgent is more stable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G37 3,445 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 (edited) Insurgent is surprisingly nimble considering its' size and drivetrain. When it comes to actual off-roading and rock-climbing though, the Sandking still doesn't really have a competitor outside the Rebel and that's really only hill climbing. I guess it comes down to track? People use off-road vehicles for all sorts of things. Edited March 15, 2015 by G37 Quote "If you ride like lightning, you're gonna crash like thunder." - The Place Between The Pines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidCore89 7,404 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Guardian is Industrial class, they can't be raced, therefore it's pretty much useless to me. Insurgent without the gun is probably the same. Sandking is still the best off road truck in a race, Liberator and Marshall will be more suitable through rivers though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyB 2,086 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 It depends what you want it for. I Don't have the insurgent yet cause of the price and I'm guessing many others will be in the same boat. I wouldn't buy it to only use in a race (unless I want to ram them off the road). I Purchased the insurgent pickup but still am considering the normal one just cause it's a beast that can ram through anything and you can store it.. I have never really been one to go 4x4 in gta but it could be something fun to do in the future to test ou a range of vehicles. I had the sandking until the dubsta came out and have had that ever since.. Never really used it much except when I wanted to drive over 4 people around and in some races that require high clearance. If they are very similar, I would much prefer the insurgent for all its other features that no other car has so it's not really a fair comparison unless it's strictly about racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zztop911 1,609 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Guardian is Industrial class, they can't be raced, therefore it's pretty much useless to me. Insurgent without the gun is probably the same. Sandking is still the best off road truck in a race, Liberator and Marshall will be more suitable through rivers though. Can one make a race for it? Quote I only grow in living soil! Because Fat Buds Matter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeymorScagneti 1,274 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Guardian is Industrial class, they can't be raced, therefore it's pretty much useless to me. Insurgent without the gun is probably the same. Sandking is still the best off road truck in a race, Liberator and Marshall will be more suitable through rivers though. The guardian is in the off-road class in the creator. I edited all my races today and added it in where appropriate 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zztop911 1,609 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 SWEET! Quote I only grow in living soil! Because Fat Buds Matter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnYoung 548 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Both appear to have the same stats when upgraded and both appear to have the same ride height (still need to Zancudo swamp test) So if both are identical as far as everything that matters (except price) which do you prefer and why? I prefer the Insurgent in free roam due to its damage shunning, ramming and all terrain abilities, but the hefty deductible payment to file an insurance claim if gets destroyed (or impounded and not claimed) is a slight deterrent. Quote All that is necessary for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing - General Dwight Eisenhower Allied Supreme Commander WWII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf 947 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 The guardian is classed under industrial and not off road though it can traverse some tough terrain, personally I would only want it for off road races which I can't use because of the classification which falls under. The Insurgent is a rear wheel drive off road classed vehicle that can't climb steep elevations as the Guardian, Dubsta 6x6 & the two Sandkings. I was shocked testing the Insurgent in one of my races, where it certainly could not climb a specific section the other said vehicles could manuver, it would have been better if it were an all wheel drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zztop911 1,609 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 The guardian is classed under industrial and not off road though it can traverse some tough terrain, personally I would only want it for off road races which I can't use because of the classification which falls under. The Insurgent is a rear wheel drive off road classed vehicle that can't climb steep elevations as the Guardian, Dubsta 6x6 & the two Sandkings. I was shocked testing the Insurgent in one of my races, where it certainly could not climb a specific section the other said vehicles could manuver, it would have been better if it were an all wheel drive. Yeah, I'm disappointed in it's off road performance, but I still love it. Quote I only grow in living soil! Because Fat Buds Matter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidCore89 7,404 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Insurgent is RWD, therefore it will fail miserably at climbing small hills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeymorScagneti 1,274 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 The guardian is classed under industrial and not off road though it can traverse some tough terrain, personally I would only want it for off road races which I can't use because of the classification which falls under. The Insurgent is a rear wheel drive off road classed vehicle that can't climb steep elevations as the Guardian, Dubsta 6x6 & the two Sandkings. I was shocked testing the Insurgent in one of my races, where it certainly could not climb a specific section the other said vehicles could manuver, it would have been better if it were an all wheel drive. The Guardian does say Industrial when you get in it. In the creator though, it is available in the off-road class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf 947 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 (edited) Yeah? Edited my race pre heist races by untucking off road vehicle and ticked it and the Guardian showed up as an off road vehicle. Edited March 26, 2015 by smurf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnYoung 548 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) Insurgent. Here is a video of this rig in action during a heist. https://youtu.be/tl9938J4FS8 [sharedmedia=videos:videos:370] Edited March 28, 2015 by ErnYoung Quote All that is necessary for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing - General Dwight Eisenhower Allied Supreme Commander WWII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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